Mantic Forum: 'Dragon' Fire-teams

So far I've based my army on just what came in 2 army boxes and the few other items I have picked up at GenCon. This is due to none of my local stores having much KoW (one had the book and a couple of the starter sets, and a bunch of Warpath). However while looking over the choices for my first game today against an opponent (instead of just against myself), I noticed in the description of the 'Dragon' Fire-team that it sounded almost exactly like a Skaven Warp-fire thrower. I was between projects quite a while back and dabbled in Skaven, picking up two copies of their half the Island of Blood starter set (plus some of the monsters and war machines -their war machines were loads of fun to paint). I realized I had two warp fire throwers from that set partially painted.

Well a few hours later last night, and I now have two 'Dragon' Fire-teams (and what is with the quotes it the name?). They sound pretty good to protect my other war engines - though I have to change my list around to allow 6 war-engines in it. It would also be nice if Mantic would define base sizes for everything - it does not say what base this is on. Since it is 2 dwarfs, I made 20x40 bases for them - would have been a lot easier if I could have just used cavalry bases.

Anyway, you have slogged through this crap when what you wanted to see was the pictures:


  1. JonHay commented 15-09-2012, 05:29 PM
    Nice Fire Team! I like the fuel barrel, I had to make mine out of Greenstuff- theres a few pics on the AD forum if you are interested... Anyway, looking forward to seeing it painted!

    I find mine useful for guarding my Mortars- though if points allow it's Decimators every time for me. J.

    redfox4242 commented 15-09-2012, 09:33 PM
    Those are some great pictures. Cool stuff! Hey I would love to see how you paint these. Best wishes.

    puggimer commented 15-09-2012, 11:45 PM
    Thanks. I originally was in agreement with decimators to guard the artillery - but they can't move and fire - so if someone gets on a flank unexpectedly they can't help - while these can at least move, but also have 360 line of site so they can shoot all around - again something decimators can't do. Unfortunately to fit them in the army I need to make my decimators a regiment (instead of 2 troops).

    JonHay commented 16-09-2012, 04:12 AM
    I may have read your post wrong so apologies if so- but unfortunately Fire Teams can't move and fire as they are a War Engine! You are quite correct in that they can fire all around though!

    Be wary of an Enemy charging the Fire Team, routing it and over-running into the War Engine they were protecting (because the Team is an Individual) a turn or so early!

    Hope this is useful to you, let us know how you get on in the future! J.

    puggimer commented 16-09-2012, 08:00 AM
    You are correct, I missed that. However they are still a bit more able to protect the other war engines than decimators (who only have a 90 LOS instead of 360). Plus you don't treble you attacks against them at least.

    From my whopping 2 games I've played I do figure I need to do a little more maneuvering with the short range shooting units, and unless doing pillage, less with the combat units.

    Darklord commented 21-09-2012, 11:07 AM
    Great work, can't wait to see them painted.

    It is a shame these guys cannot move and fire, they would be really decent!


    Minitrol commented 30-09-2012, 02:43 AM
    What an excellent conversion ude!


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